Talk:Gramps 5.1 Wiki Manual

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Wiki Manual, User manual, ... ?

The menu on the left shows User manual and takes you to this page Gramps 5.1 Wiki Manual. This is inconsistent and irritating. I suggest to use User Manual like the title of a book. When the Gramps version is important, I suggest to use parentheses, e.g. User Manual (Gramps 5.1). Furthermore, the top of the page could indicate where a user would find the User Manuals of previous Gramps versions.

Thanks, I'd grown familiar & oblivious to some of your observations.

Expanded the "Abstract" in the header section to reinforce 'wiki' make finding an archived manual easier. Added a 'Wiki' term to the Glossary.

The consistency on 'Wiki Manual' versus 'User Manual' is also a good point. That decision is up to our Webmaster. I'm inclined to agree that the sidebar 'User Manual' should be changed to 'Wiki Manual'

I think we're stuck with the 'Gramps 5.1' prefixes. They are part of the MediaWiki file organization system. But it is also vital for the Search Engine indexing ... so that people get to the right edition for the right software product. Also, having a fully qualified page title makes the Printable (print to PDF) page distinct from outdated copies.

The use of parentheticals is a style discussion, I think. Usually, one considers such qualifications contextually implied. (Just as you might say '1965 Ford Mustang automobile' in general conversation but only '1965 Ford Mustang' on a muscle car website, just '1965 Mustang' on a Ford corporate website and just "'65" in a Mustang group.) Our first mention is (hopefully) fully qualified but uses the shortened form elsewhere. In the menu, the Gramps is implied while the version qualification is left off to keep from having to amend instruction on the mailgroup & in other venues.

Bamaustin (talk) 16:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I would like to vote for 'User Manual' over 'Wiki Manual': A 'User Manual' is a well-known term for the general computer user. We both understand what a 'Wiki Manual' is but I am afraid that users new to Gramps could be irritated by such an unfamiliar phrase. Furthermore, the word 'wiki' appears already more than once in the sidebar. 'wiki' to me is a technique rather than contents. When looking for information, I'd rather steer to a familiar 'User Manual'. Even MediaWiki has no 'Wiki ...' but it offers 'User help' and a 'Technical manual', even though all contents is 'wiki'. Hence, my thumbs are up for User Manual. --Wribln (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
One more argument for 'User Manual': Within Gramps, F1 brings you to the 'User Manual'. --Wribln (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

+1 Renaming or calling the next "...Wiki Manual" to "...User Manual" would make it easier for people to understand they are same thing. -- Adam.

Good one, unless there is a technical reason? Adam to add your signature read the following basically typing four tildes '~' results in a username signature with a timestamp, I suggest you join wikipedia and play around in a sandbox(experimental area) . Daleathan (talk) 22:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC)